Elizondo discusses demons, hybrids, and missing scientists

The interview

Jillian Michaels published a long interview with Luis Elizondo on May 17, 2026. The conversation runs almost two hours and moves quickly across UAP disclosure, congressional claims, alleged missing scientists, the Vatican, remote viewing, and oversight of secret programs.

The interview does not release new documents. Its value is narrower: it records what Elizondo was willing to say publicly when asked about some of the strongest claims now circulating around UAP disclosure.

Missing scientists and an FBI investigation

Michaels opened with claims about scientists connected to sensitive aerospace and defense programs who were allegedly killed or disappeared.

Elizondo said the UAP topic had been dangerous for some people. He said some individuals he had worked with or known were missing or dead, and said there was an ongoing FBI investigation.

He did not name the case list in the interview. He also did not present documents on screen. The interview gives his public statement, not the investigative record behind it.

The hybrid allegation

Michaels played a Newsmax clip involving Rep. Tim Burchett and former Rep. Matt Gaetz. In that clip, Gaetz described being briefed by a U.S. Army source about alleged locations where captured aliens were involved in breeding with humans.

Burchett did not confirm the details in the clip. He said he was still a member of Congress and could not comment too much on what Gaetz said. He added that he had been briefed by multiple agencies and had seen material he believed would disturb the public if released.

Elizondo's response was careful. He said he could not answer on behalf of Congress, but said the topic of hybridization had been discussed by senior military and intelligence officials. He did not say the allegation had been proven in the interview.

How Elizondo framed the word "demon"

The title question of the interview was whether UAPs are demons.

Elizondo did not present the word in a simple religious sense. He said he used the term more broadly for beings that do terrible things to innocent civilians. He also said humanity may misunderstand what older religious language was trying to describe.

He said he had spoken with people from the Vatican who told him there is a long Christian history involving UAP or UFO-like accounts. He referred to old accounts of flaming shields and historical sky events.

He also said some people may have used the language of demons to keep people afraid of the topic. That was presented as his account of conversations and views inside the subject, not as a settled definition.

Remote viewing and Stargate

The interview then moved into remote viewing and the U.S. government's old psychic-intelligence programs.

Elizondo said the U.S. government and Russia had remote-viewing programs. He referred to Stargate and earlier program names, and said the work was used for intelligence collection.

He also said some people involved in those programs described consciousness as possibly connected to quantum processes and time. He said the data from the program worked, but also said the mechanism remains hard to quantify and uncomfortable for many people.

The interview did not test remote viewing. It summarized Elizondo's view of the program and why some officials saw it as controversial.

Shadow government and oversight

Michaels and Elizondo also discussed the idea of a hidden structure operating outside normal oversight.

Elizondo said he agreed with Steven Greer on one point: that there had been a shadow-government problem going back to the late 1940s or early 1950s. He framed it as a mix of government and non-government elements making decisions without proper authority.

He connected that concern to congressional oversight, including the Senate and House intelligence committees, and to the broader problem of secret programs that may not be fully accountable to elected officials.

What the interview does and does not establish

The interview is useful because it gathers several claims now circulating in one place and puts Elizondo's public responses on record.

It does not establish whether hybrid programs exist. It does not show the FBI case files. It does not release Vatican documents. It does not prove remote viewing. It does not identify a specific hidden program with public records.

What it does show is the current shape of the conversation: congressional claims, alleged classified briefings, religious framing, legacy intelligence programs, and the recurring demand for records that can be checked outside closed briefings.

Sources

• Jillian Michaels: Are UAPs Demons? What the Vatican Told Elizondo, published May 17, 2026.
• Jillian Michaels YouTube channel